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Astiles
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En el foro de BMS un usuario preguntaba por el origen de las comunicaciones entre pilotos que se oyen de fondo al lanzar el simulador. Esta es la respuesta de Dee Jay ;)



History of the Engagement

The day is January 4, 1989. The airspace close to the Libyan coast in the Gulf of Sidra. Two VF-32
F-14As from USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) fly a mission as Combat Air Patrol when a pair of
Libyan Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Floggers were detected. The MiG-23s had taken off from Al
Bumbaw Airfield near Tobruk and they continued their flight towards the US fighters, even though
the F-14s radar had locked on the bogies. It's a common procedure under such circumstances to lock
the powerful APG-9 radar on the incoming Libyan fighters, to give them the possibility to turn
around and head back home. Usually this procedure was impressive enough to drive the Libyans
back since the radar warning tone resulting from an armed F-14's radar was fearsome enough. But
this time it did not work. For the second time US Navy F-14s were engaged by Libyan fighter
aircraft under hostile conditions. During the 8 minutes engagement, the MiGs kept turning into the
Tomcats to maintain a firing solution for their Soviet built air-to-air missiles (refered to as
"jinking"). As later examination of F-14 still photography resolved, the MiG-23s were armed with
AA-7 Apex missiles. The F-14s took the MiG-23's head on. They try to take offsets to try to
discourage the enemy and to gain position, but with the help of Lybian ground command, they
countered each move and forced the Tomcats to take them head on. After the second offset, Alpha
Bravo (Kennedy air command) issued "warning yellow, weapons hold", giving the F-14's authority
to fire if they felt they were threatened or was in danger. After the sixth offset (jink), at 13 miles,
the wingleader knew a fight was inevitable and fired an AIM-7 Sparrow. His wingmen immediately
followed him and fired another Sparrow at the same target. The target was downed and the second
MiG did a flyby. After pulling more than 5.0 G's, the wingleader centered the bandit. Less than 2
miles away, the Sidewinder was the only weapon effective, but he couldn't get a tone! With his RIO
yelling in the background he tried to figure out what's the problem when he finally got a tone; his
volume knob was turned down. With a good growl, he pulled the trigger and yelled "Fox 2!" and
the AIM-9 flew right in the MiG's exhaust. Both Libyan pilots ejected, however, no attempt was
made by their goverment to rescue them in the Gulf of Sidra, and they were left for dead.
Crew/Description
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Gypsy 207 (F-14A, BuNos 159610 AC207)
- Pilot: Joseph B. Connelly (207P)
- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Steven P. Collins (207R)
Gypsy 204 (F-14A, BuNos 159013 AC204)- Wingman
- Pilot: Hermon C. "Munster" Cook III (204P)
- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Leo F. Enright (204R)
Alpha Bravo
- CVG-67 USS John F. Kennedy Air Command (AB)
Closeout
- Orbiting control aircraft. (CLOSE)
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207R- "Gypsy 207 contact at 175, 72 miles, looks like a flight of two, Angels 10."
CLOSE- "Closeout concurs, showing 78 miles."
204R- "Throttle back just a little bit here."
CLOSE- "Closeout shows 25 mile seperation for an inbound"
207R- "Contacts appear to be heading, ah, 315 now, speed 430, Angels approximately 8,000."
CLOSE- "Roger Ace, take it north."
204P- "Looks like we'll have to make a quick loop here."
204R- "Come starboard, ah I need to give ya collision here. Yeah, come starboard about 40."
207R- "207 ah, 61 miles now, bearing 180, Angels 8, heading 330." 204R- "Steady up."
CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo this is Closeout."
204R- "Come back port, ah, 20 degrees here, he's jinkin' now."
207R- "Bogies appear to be coming, ah, jinking to the right now, heading north, speed 430, ah,
angels 5,000 now in the descent. So lets take her down now, we're goin' down."
CLOSE- "Concur."
207R- "Closeout, 53 miles now. Bogies appear to be heading directly at us. I'm coming towards.
Steady up 150 for 33 offset, 50 miles. 49 miles now, speed 450, Angels 9, I'm goin' down to 3."
204P- "(unintelligible, from 204P, formation flying?)"
207P- "Roger."
207R- "Roger that, 30 degree offset now. Bogies heading 340, speed 500, lets accelerate."
207P- "Okay, it looks like they are at 9,000 feet now."
207R- "Roger, bogies are jinked back into us now, now lets come starboard 30 degrees the other
side."
204P- "Coming starboard, say your Angels."
- "(unintelligible) patrol setting up station."
207R- "Roger, Angels now 11, ready up."
AB- "Closeout ah, Warning yellow, weapons hold, I repeat, warning yellow, weapons hold. Alpha
Bravo out."
CLOSE- "Roger, Gypsies, pass up, Alpha Bravo directs warning yellow, weapons hold."
207P- "35 miles here."
207R- "Roger that. Bogies have jinked back into me now for the third time. Nose is on at 35 miles,
Angels 7"
CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo cleared that, did you copy?"
207R- "Okay, I am taking another offest, starboard, starboard, ah, 210."
CLOSE- "Guys, I'm locked up here 30 miles, Angels 13,000, he's the trailer"
207R- "Roger that, level off here, bogie jinked back into me for the 4th time. I'm coming back
starboard. I'm back port now. Port 27 miles, bogie is at 7,000 feet."
207P- "We're at 5."
AB- "Watch out, bogies 135-50, Angels 16, heading 340."
207P- "Okay."
CLOSE- "Roger, same bogies."
207P- "Okay, you're in collision now, steering."
207R- "Okay, bogies have jinked back at me again for the fifth time. They're on my nose now.
Inside of 20 miles"
- {Master arm alert}
207R- "Master arm on, master arm on"
CLOSE- "Okay, good light"
207P- "Good Light"
207R- "Okay, centering up the T, bogie has jinked back into me again, 16 miles, at the center of the
dot."
CLOSE- "Say your Angels."
207R- "I'm at Angels 5, nose up."
CLOSE- "No, his Angels."
207P- "No, wait a minute."
207R- "Angels are at 9!"
207P- "Alpha Bravo from 207."
207R- "13 miles. Fox 1! Fox 1!"
207P- "Ah jesus!"
204P- "Breaking right."
207R- "Roger that, 10 miles, he's back on my nose. Fox 1 again!"
207P- "Watching 'em up."
207R- "6 miles, 6 miles."
204R- "Tally 2, Tally 2! Turning into me."
207R- "Roger that, 5 miles. . . 4 miles."
207P- "Okay, he's got a missile off."
204R- "Breakin' right."
207P- "Good hit, good hit on one!"
207R- "Roger that, good kill, good kill!"
204P- "I've got the other one."
204R- "Select fox 2, select fox 2!!"
204P- "I got fox 2."
CLOSE- "Keep your eye for the trailer."
207R- "Comin' hard starboard."
204P- "Those ****in'!"
204R- "Shoot him!"
204P- "I don't got tone."
207R- "That's the second one."
204P- "I've got the second one on my nose right now."
207R- "Okay, I am high cover on you."
204P- "Get a fox, get a, lock him up! Lock him up."
204R- "There! Shoot him, fox 2!"
204P- "I can't! I don't have a ****ing tone!"
204P- "Tone's up!"
- {Fox 2--AIM-9 Sidewider launch}
204R- "Fox 2."
204P- "Good kill! Good kill!"
207R- "Okay, good kill."
207R- "Pilot ejected."
CLOSE- "The pilot's ejected out of the second one."
204R- "Okay Munster, lets head north, head north."
207R- "Okay. Port side high, comin' down hard."
204R- "Roger."
207R- "Roger that. Just revert. Blowin' north, let's go down low on the decks, unload, 500 knots,
lets get out of here."
204P- "Okay, two good chutes."
CLOSE- "They're showin' two good chutes in the air here, from Munster."
207R- "Roger that, I see the, ah--."
207P- "I've got the splash, one splash."
207R- "One splash."
204R- "Take that down to, ah, 3,000 here Munster."
CLOSE- "The, ah, splash 160 at 96."
204R- "Lets go, Munster down to 3,000 and lets get outta here."
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With his RIO
yelling in the background he tried to figure out what's the problem when he finally got a tone; his volume knob was turned down.
Un clásico, eh :lol:
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En el foro de BMS un usuario preguntaba por el origen de las comunicaciones entre pilotos que se oyen de fondo al lanzar el simulador. Esta es la respuesta de Dee Jay ;)



History of the Engagement

The day is January 4, 1989. The airspace close to the Libyan coast in the Gulf of Sidra. Two VF-32
F-14As from USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) fly a mission as Combat Air Patrol when a pair of
Libyan Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Floggers were detected. The MiG-23s had taken off from Al
Bumbaw Airfield near Tobruk and they continued their flight towards the US fighters, even though
the F-14s radar had locked on the bogies. It's a common procedure under such circumstances to lock
the powerful APG-9 radar on the incoming Libyan fighters, to give them the possibility to turn
around and head back home. Usually this procedure was impressive enough to drive the Libyans
back since the radar warning tone resulting from an armed F-14's radar was fearsome enough. But
this time it did not work. For the second time US Navy F-14s were engaged by Libyan fighter
aircraft under hostile conditions. During the 8 minutes engagement, the MiGs kept turning into the
Tomcats to maintain a firing solution for their Soviet built air-to-air missiles (refered to as
"jinking"). As later examination of F-14 still photography resolved, the MiG-23s were armed with
AA-7 Apex missiles. The F-14s took the MiG-23's head on. They try to take offsets to try to
discourage the enemy and to gain position, but with the help of Lybian ground command, they
countered each move and forced the Tomcats to take them head on. After the second offset, Alpha
Bravo (Kennedy air command) issued "warning yellow, weapons hold", giving the F-14's authority
to fire if they felt they were threatened or was in danger. After the sixth offset (jink), at 13 miles,
the wingleader knew a fight was inevitable and fired an AIM-7 Sparrow. His wingmen immediately
followed him and fired another Sparrow at the same target. The target was downed and the second
MiG did a flyby. After pulling more than 5.0 G's, the wingleader centered the bandit. Less than 2
miles away, the Sidewinder was the only weapon effective, but he couldn't get a tone! With his RIO
yelling in the background he tried to figure out what's the problem when he finally got a tone; his
volume knob was turned down. With a good growl, he pulled the trigger and yelled "Fox 2!" and
the AIM-9 flew right in the MiG's exhaust. Both Libyan pilots ejected, however, no attempt was
made by their goverment to rescue them in the Gulf of Sidra, and they were left for dead.
Crew/Description
----------------------------
Gypsy 207 (F-14A, BuNos 159610 AC207)
- Pilot: Joseph B. Connelly (207P)
- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Steven P. Collins (207R)
Gypsy 204 (F-14A, BuNos 159013 AC204)- Wingman
- Pilot: Hermon C. "Munster" Cook III (204P)
- Radar Intercept Operator (RIO): Leo F. Enright (204R)
Alpha Bravo
- CVG-67 USS John F. Kennedy Air Command (AB)
Closeout
- Orbiting control aircraft. (CLOSE)
----------------------------
207R- "Gypsy 207 contact at 175, 72 miles, looks like a flight of two, Angels 10."
CLOSE- "Closeout concurs, showing 78 miles."
204R- "Throttle back just a little bit here."
CLOSE- "Closeout shows 25 mile seperation for an inbound"
207R- "Contacts appear to be heading, ah, 315 now, speed 430, Angels approximately 8,000."
CLOSE- "Roger Ace, take it north."
204P- "Looks like we'll have to make a quick loop here."
204R- "Come starboard, ah I need to give ya collision here. Yeah, come starboard about 40."
207R- "207 ah, 61 miles now, bearing 180, Angels 8, heading 330." 204R- "Steady up."
CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo this is Closeout."
204R- "Come back port, ah, 20 degrees here, he's jinkin' now."
207R- "Bogies appear to be coming, ah, jinking to the right now, heading north, speed 430, ah,
angels 5,000 now in the descent. So lets take her down now, we're goin' down."
CLOSE- "Concur."
207R- "Closeout, 53 miles now. Bogies appear to be heading directly at us. I'm coming towards.
Steady up 150 for 33 offset, 50 miles. 49 miles now, speed 450, Angels 9, I'm goin' down to 3."
204P- "(unintelligible, from 204P, formation flying?)"
207P- "Roger."
207R- "Roger that, 30 degree offset now. Bogies heading 340, speed 500, lets accelerate."
207P- "Okay, it looks like they are at 9,000 feet now."
207R- "Roger, bogies are jinked back into us now, now lets come starboard 30 degrees the other
side."
204P- "Coming starboard, say your Angels."
- "(unintelligible) patrol setting up station."
207R- "Roger, Angels now 11, ready up."
AB- "Closeout ah, Warning yellow, weapons hold, I repeat, warning yellow, weapons hold. Alpha
Bravo out."
CLOSE- "Roger, Gypsies, pass up, Alpha Bravo directs warning yellow, weapons hold."
207P- "35 miles here."
207R- "Roger that. Bogies have jinked back into me now for the third time. Nose is on at 35 miles,
Angels 7"
CLOSE- "Alpha Bravo cleared that, did you copy?"
207R- "Okay, I am taking another offest, starboard, starboard, ah, 210."
CLOSE- "Guys, I'm locked up here 30 miles, Angels 13,000, he's the trailer"
207R- "Roger that, level off here, bogie jinked back into me for the 4th time. I'm coming back
starboard. I'm back port now. Port 27 miles, bogie is at 7,000 feet."
207P- "We're at 5."
AB- "Watch out, bogies 135-50, Angels 16, heading 340."
207P- "Okay."
CLOSE- "Roger, same bogies."
207P- "Okay, you're in collision now, steering."
207R- "Okay, bogies have jinked back at me again for the fifth time. They're on my nose now.
Inside of 20 miles"
- {Master arm alert}
207R- "Master arm on, master arm on"
CLOSE- "Okay, good light"
207P- "Good Light"
207R- "Okay, centering up the T, bogie has jinked back into me again, 16 miles, at the center of the
dot."
CLOSE- "Say your Angels."
207R- "I'm at Angels 5, nose up."
CLOSE- "No, his Angels."
207P- "No, wait a minute."
207R- "Angels are at 9!"
207P- "Alpha Bravo from 207."
207R- "13 miles. Fox 1! Fox 1!"
207P- "Ah jesus!"
204P- "Breaking right."
207R- "Roger that, 10 miles, he's back on my nose. Fox 1 again!"
207P- "Watching 'em up."
207R- "6 miles, 6 miles."
204R- "Tally 2, Tally 2! Turning into me."
207R- "Roger that, 5 miles. . . 4 miles."
207P- "Okay, he's got a missile off."
204R- "Breakin' right."
207P- "Good hit, good hit on one!"
207R- "Roger that, good kill, good kill!"
204P- "I've got the other one."
204R- "Select fox 2, select fox 2!!"
204P- "I got fox 2."
CLOSE- "Keep your eye for the trailer."
207R- "Comin' hard starboard."
204P- "Those ****in'!"
204R- "Shoot him!"
204P- "I don't got tone."
207R- "That's the second one."
204P- "I've got the second one on my nose right now."
207R- "Okay, I am high cover on you."
204P- "Get a fox, get a, lock him up! Lock him up."
204R- "There! Shoot him, fox 2!"
204P- "I can't! I don't have a ****ing tone!"
204P- "Tone's up!"
- {Fox 2--AIM-9 Sidewider launch}
204R- "Fox 2."
204P- "Good kill! Good kill!"
207R- "Okay, good kill."
207R- "Pilot ejected."
CLOSE- "The pilot's ejected out of the second one."
204R- "Okay Munster, lets head north, head north."
207R- "Okay. Port side high, comin' down hard."
204R- "Roger."
207R- "Roger that. Just revert. Blowin' north, let's go down low on the decks, unload, 500 knots,
lets get out of here."
204P- "Okay, two good chutes."
CLOSE- "They're showin' two good chutes in the air here, from Munster."
207R- "Roger that, I see the, ah--."
207P- "I've got the splash, one splash."
207R- "One splash."
204R- "Take that down to, ah, 3,000 here Munster."
CLOSE- "The, ah, splash 160 at 96."
204R- "Lets go, Munster down to 3,000 and lets get outta here."
Me a gustado Astiles. Lo que creo que esto esta pasado por un traductor...no?

No se mucho de combate aereo por eso te lo pregunto. Soy relativamente nuevo en esto.
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Y yo que pensaba que las voces del inicio eran pura teatralización... :shock:
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Astiles ya se que paso...sorry.

El Chrome del movil tenia el google translate puesto en automatico y traducio el texto sin darme cuenta.
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Y yo que pensaba que las voces del inicio eran pura teatralización... :shock:
Ya comentamos esto cuando Interceptor puso esa grabación en el hilo de vídeos de aeronáutica ;)
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Toma con Willow en modo A-10 :P




No se dio mal la misión, buen uso de las GBU-12:
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El ACMI ;)
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Buena toma en formación, aunque no sé porqué daba la sensación de que os ibais escoñar en el umbral por ir muy cortos.
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Good job 8-)
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Espectacular vídeo, qué pilotos :shock:

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